Welcome back to Good Boys, a For Them original podcast hosted by Kylo Freeman, an actor, and Motti, a comedian. If this is the first you’re hearing about the podcast, Good Boys is all about two trans guys reflecting on what it really means to be a “good boy.” You can stream all of Season 1 anywhere you listen to podcasts and check out our first AF+ bonus episode here.

Why are bonus episodes being published on AF+? Great question! Kylo and Motti often discuss vulnerable topics like hormone replacement therapy, relationships, addictions, and trauma, and we felt these would be great topics to include with the other members-only content published on Autostraddle. These bonus episodes are not available to stream to the public, so AF Media and AF+ members get exclusive access to the audio, video, and written transcript of the episodes.

We launched Good Boys in July 2024 and this will be the final episode of our first season before returning for season 2 in the new year. In this episode, Kylo and Motti are joined by their partners to dive into the unique dynamics of being in a relationship with someone actively transitioning—covering all the ups, downs, and everything in between. If there are any topics you’d like to see (or hear!) covered in season 2, please use the comment section to let us know! You can also email your requests to [email protected].

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Motti: Welcome back to the Good Boys Season One finale, part two. That was a three, Kylo. But—

Kylo: Was it? I went like this, which looks like three, and then I went like this. I was doing my own thing.

Motti: Well, this is part two of the season finale. If you haven’t listened to part one, that would be a great place to start. We’re chatting about sex moves, non-sex moves, threesomes, nudes—you know, getting together with your partner, boundaries. But now we’re going to be talking about T Time, a whole episode dedicated to T Time, which we haven’t done before.

Kylo: Is that right?

Motti: I don’t think we’ve done a whole T Time episode. It’s usually just a segment. Because, you know, as our listeners know, if you’re a Day One, Kylo and I are both on different testosterone journeys, and we like to chat about it, catch up on what’s going on with our bodies and our minds.

And now we have people who are most directly impacted by and contributing to those changes, which is exciting.

Britt: Contributing.

Motti: Yeah. I don’t know what I meant by that.

Britt: I don’t know how, but I am contributing—

Kylo: What about to your, like, affirmation?

Motti: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You are participating in my HRT in a way.

Britt: Sure.

Motti: By telling me I’m going bald.

Kylo: And here it is.

Britt: I did not say that.

Motti: I’m just kidding.

Britt: I did not do that.

Em: Oh my God, she’s transphobic.

Motti: Yeah. This is a Good Boys exclusive: Britt Miggs… is a loving and caring partner to her trans boyfriend. And let’s chat about it.

Kylo: Yeah.

Motti: Usually in this segment, we’ll go over some of the bodily changes and stuff. What’s going on with you?

Kylo: My updates. My first update is that I did an experiment. I think I said this last time, but for context, I pack—occasionally pack.

Motti: He puts a packer in his pants. He doesn’t pack a suitcase, just so you know.

Britt: Thank you. The first time he ever said that to me—

Kylo: You thought he was packing a suitcase?

Motti: Okay, I was getting ready to go to an event, and I knew I was staying at her place after. It was before we lived together. And I was like, “I’m kind of nervous. I’m packing.” And she’s like, “Do you want to drop the bag at my apartment before?”

Kylo: You’re so sweet, Britt.

Motti: I was like, “Oh my God, no worries. I have stuff.” Like, you’re not going for very long. I was confident he was talking about a suitcase.

Britt: It was really so adorable. Also, for the listeners, packing—

Kylo: Packing is when you take, traditionally, a packer, but actually it can be anything—a sock, I don’t know what else—it could be anything at all. And you put it either in your boxers, in a packing pouch in your boxers (shoutout For Them boxers that have that), or in your trousers to create an illusion that you have a penis. Traditional penis, I should say.

I’m always hung up on that, but I’m like, “I don’t have a dick,” and she’s like, “Yeah, you do.”
Yeah. So I used to pack only occasionally, like sort of on special occasions. I’d be like, “Oh, we’ll go for a nice date,” and I would pack. You know?

And I did an experiment where I was like, “I’m just going to pack every day for two weeks and see how I feel.” And it was revolutionary, to be honest, because I felt so much more in my body. I felt so much more ready for sex at all times.

Em: Great. Oh yeah, I needed that.

Kylo: But yeah, I just felt—one, always ready for sex. Always. And my body felt really affirmed and just really great. So then after those two weeks, I was like, “Oh, I’m going to pack every day.” So that’s been my biggest change: that now I just pack every single day.

My testosterone is still the same. I do a fabulous little micro amount. And I don’t think, unless I’m forgetting something, I’ve had any physical changes.

Motti: [Em’s] going through the inventory.

Kylo: Oh my God, what are you going to say? Are you going to say my hormonal changes? Yeah. I got crazy there for a minute. For context, I don’t have—I don’t have any, as a woman or as a trans man, I don’t really get PMS.

Em: Some people are blessed like that. Me, not so much.

Kylo: To be honest, it’s been humbling because I got some really bad PMS, and I just don’t. I’m always doing that annoying thing where I’m like, “Is it your period?”

Em: I’m like, I’m going to—

Britt: Em’s like, “Literally, I’m going to set you on fire.”

Em: Burn your eyebrows off.

Kylo: I just didn’t appreciate how physically bad it is and how awful it feels. So, for those who don’t know, when you take testosterone, it actually starts as estrogen in the body—or its precursor is estrogen. Is that right? Testosterone is upstream, or like a precursor?

Em: Not necessarily. It depends. Either way, it can metabolize into estrogen, but you can end up having, downstream of testosterone, some high estradiol levels, I believe.

Kylo: Correct. That’s right.

Britt: Dr. Em over here.

Em: Yeah, no, no, I’m also gaslighting myself into thinking I’ve said that wrong. Overall, I’m not a doctor. Do not listen to me.

Kylo: Yeah. We’re not doctors.

Motti: I am.

Em: Dr. Motti.

Kylo: So what I believe happened—and you can balance things out with your doctor if possible—is I’m taking testosterone, I got more estrogen, and then boom! For the first time in my life, I got PMS. Okay? So I was crying a lot. My jealousy went from a six to a 52.

Britt: Oh my God.

Kylo: I’m usually pretty chill—not chill, but like, calm and consistent. And it was really, really unsettling. So I actually stopped testosterone for about three weeks to see if that was it. And I’m back to normal. Now, I don’t know if you’ve had this, Motti, but now I’m in a situation where I’m trying to find balance because I want to take testosterone, but I also never want to experience what I went through with PMS.

Motti: People say you get more agitated or whatever. I’m also a pretty consistent person.

Britt: You don’t get that angry or emotional. I mean, you cry at TikToks.

Motti: I cry at TikToks and movies and shit.

Britt: If there’s an animal or a baby, you’re going to cry.

Motti: Especially an animal and a baby. That was my entire feed last night. But I don’t know. There was like two weeks there where you thought I was annoyed by you all the time. But was that you or me?

Britt: I don’t know. I mean, it’s such a man thing to be annoyed by me. It’s classic.

Motti: Was I seeming irritated? Because in my head, I’m like, “What? You’re fine.” And you’re like, “You hate me. You literally hate me. We’re going to break up.”

Britt: It’s probably a combination of both our hormones. Me being insecure and you maybe being less… I don’t know. I don’t know. Also, we’ve exited the honeymoon phase—I don’t want to say that in a bad way, but we’ve literally been together for a year and a half now, or approaching that.

Motti: And we live together.

Britt: That’s the other thing, which was fast. We hauled.

Motti: We’ve been living together for a really long time.

Britt: Almost a year now.

Motti: Almost a year to the day.

Kylo: Jesus. Did you guys move in together on day one?

Motti: Four months in.

Britt: I think it was more like five or six months. If you round up and carry the two. Can I just say, we’re not crazy? Yes, we were in love, but—

Motti: It was very logistical.

Britt: Your lease was up, and your sister was moving out, and then I had this place.

Motti: The logistics are: I want to live in her skin, and she wants to live in my skin. The closest we could get to that was living in the same apartment.

Britt: Totally.

Motti: I was also tired of bringing my ho bag to Bushwick on an hour-long train ride.

Britt: Yeah, you were doing an hour door-to-door commute. It was so long. And this one packs like a—

Motti: A different kind of packing.

Britt: My makeup, my skincare, my whatever. It is crazy.

Motti: Anyway, this totally derailed from your hormones.

Kylo: No, no, no, I mean, that’s it. That’s my update.

Motti: Yeah. My update—I know I keep saying this, but it keeps on coming—my ass cheeks. The other day Britt was like, “DAMN.” And now my thigh hair is the same as my groin hair, is the same as my pubic hair, is the same as my stomach hair. Like, it’s all just connecting.

Kylo: You kind of want it to be all one sheet of hair.

Motti: I have one really long, thick nipple hair on my right nipple. I showed you the other day in the park.

Britt: Platonic nude.

Motti: Platonic. Yeah.

Em: I actually snapped the picture. I took the nude.

Motti: Yeah, yeah. And I have chest hair. I’m growing chest hair over my scars now, which is pretty cool. Like, it’s all over my chest. My voice obviously. I’m no longer doing a close shave, which I kept doing because I was like, “It’s embarrassing. I don’t want to have this patchy, stubbly thing.” So I’d clean shave almost every day to avoid that. But then my skin was getting really irritated, especially entering winter—I was getting flaky and red. So I put out a little PSA, like, “What should I do?” I got some new skincare products that have been working really well, and people were like, “Trim, don’t clean shave.”

And now I’m trimming it, but it’s nice to know—I let it grow out when we were on retreat for a week, so I just didn’t even touch it. It’s coming in pretty full, like, I’m growing hair in the places I’d like to be growing hair on my face. So, cool. That’s new and cool.

Kylo: Congrats.

Motti: Thank you.
I’m getting pretty buff.

Kylo: You are.

Motti: I’m really putting time in the gym. I have trap muscles for the first time. My shoulders are getting really big.

Britt: It’s also because you’re working out on top of everything else you’re doing.

Motti: Well, yeah. If I’m just injecting myself with testosterone, it’s not going to magically grow my muscles.

Britt: No, that’s what I’m saying. You’re putting in the work.

Motti: Yeah, exactly. I’m building muscle. In addition to the testosterone, I’m lifting weights at least three days a week. And to get into the next topic of top surgery—now I have pecs. It’s cool that I’m no longer concave.

Kylo: Same. I think this is a special thing because both of you cared for us during top surgery.

Em: Yes.

Britt: Yes.

Kylo: Comments? Questions?

Britt: I want to say that I think I was—well, not to say you can ever be overprepared—but I feel like I was expecting it to be really, really bad.

Motti: We had a really easy time.

Britt: I attribute that maybe to you. You were a pretty chill patient. Nothing really went awry. Your mom was there for the first two days, and we had additional help. But I don’t know. Yeah, I was checking your levels, draining the tubes, and that was the extent of it.

Motti: You were the liaison between me and my surgeon.

Britt: I was Madame Secretary. You even have a joke about it in your stand-up where you say, “People told me, ‘You’re not going to be able to wipe your own ass,’ and I was like, okay, I’m prepared for whatever.” And then it was—

Motti: I was pretty self-sufficient. I know that’s a privilege because not everyone has that experience. I don’t have any autoimmune or pre-existing conditions that would make recovery hard for me, so I was thankful for that. I do think it’s helpful for people to know who are anxious about it that it is possible to have a relatively easy time. Of course, things can go wrong, but for me, it was good.

Britt: Yeah, I think it was also crazy because I took care of you, tended to you, got you things when you were on the couch or whatever. And then, like, two weeks later, I got really sick, and you had to take care of me. And honestly, you took care of me more than I took care of you.

Motti: You were really sick.

Britt: I had a crazy cough.

Kylo: Em, you’ve got to give the other side of it.

Em: Yeah, maybe it’s just where the incision happens or people’s nerve systems, but Kylo was in a lot of pain. So pain management and timing the opioids back-to-back was a big thing. We had to make sure the peak of the pain relief hit as he needed to fall asleep. If you’d been in less pain, I think I would have been more chill. But you were just not okay.

Kylo: I feel like I had withdrawals from the pain meds, too.

Em: Because you were in so much pain, they kept you on them for longer. And clearing the drains was so painful—it made Kylo cry every time.

Britt: I’m so sorry.

Motti: Was it painful to drain them?

Kylo: It was excruciating. By the way, I have to shout her out—Em was a trooper. I was screaming. Trigger warning if you’re planning to have surgery and don’t want to hear this, but when I was pushing the stuff out of the drains and air would go in, I was screaming. Like, I’ve never experienced pain like that. I’d scream, then sob, and then she’d cry.

Em: Because I’m inflicting this pain and trying so hard to do it right. You can’t even imagine the number of Google searches I did. They told us we had to empty the tubes.

Motti: Oh, we were just dumping the little ball at the end.

Em: We were essentially scraping out the tubes.

Britt: Oh no.

Kylo: Gross. Trigger warning. Mine weren’t just filled with blood but other stuff too.

Em: We tried everything—holding it a certain way, releasing the air—but ultimately, I was inflicting insane amounts of pain on Kylo several times a day. It was not fun.

Kylo: By the way, when you said some people can’t wipe their own butt? Right here. I could barely move. Em had to lower me onto the toilet.

Britt: Oh no.

Motti: The thing that hurt the most for me was the chafing from the recovery binder under my arms. That hurt the most. Britt is a genius, though. She tucked these microfiber makeup-removal rags under my armpits, and they were super soft. But that’s what hurt the most. I took my oxy once, and I think I had an allergic reaction.

Britt: Some people get stomach issues from it.

Motti: It didn’t upset my stomach, but I got itchy all over.

Britt: Maybe you’re an anomaly, or there are just two extremes.

Kylo: Yeah.

Britt: We have the very chill and the very not chill.

Motti: Which is so off-brand for me. Usually, I’d assume something like a tree would’ve fallen on the apartment while I was recovering — I don’t have very good luck. Also, I bought so many things we didn’t need. I donated it all, but.

Britt: Definitely a lot of prep and then I was pleasantly surprised — but I was ready to do whatever.

Motti: We had a conversation about the wiping thing.

Britt: and the sponge bathing and whatever.

Motti: You did sponge bathe me.

Em: So I’m super hippie when it comes to this stuff, I’m not bothered one bit. It was Kylo who was freaking out about it.

Kylo: Yeah I said no to the butt, like you took me to the toilet and I was like “nah, I’ll figure it out.” And she was like “you can’t move,” and I was like “no get out, I can’t handle you wiping my butt.”

Em: I can’t even tell you how much I don’t care. And I’ve taken care of a previous partner through a major surgery. I’ve even pressure tested it in my own brain.

Motti: Britt would not have wiped me. But I think that’s okay.

Britt: We also had not been dating for as long.

Motti: Now you’d wipe me?

Britt: Yeah! I love you.

Motti: You loved me then!

Britt: Yeah but we live together now! It’s different!

Em: I don’t think it’s a matter of love, it’s like, personal constitution. LIke does it wig you out or not

Kylo: I love Em with all my heart but I would struggle to wipe her butt.

Motti: Britt has trouble like, picking up dog shit.

Kylo: Same.

Britt: Yeah when I had a dog, I literally one time threw up on the street, picking up —

Motti: Yeah we’ve had serious conversations like… I don’t know if she’s gonna be able to change diapers.

Britt: It’s puke and shit. I have trouble with bodily fluids.

Em: Bring it on, I’m fine.

Kylo: I have a question for you both — has it been annoying the increase in testosterone causing an increase in horniness? Like be honest?

Britt: No, it is not annoying.

Motti: There’s a huge butt?

Britt: I just think, if we’re being totally honest, I’m on Lexapro and it curbs my sex drive in a crazy way that I’m extremely self-conscious about. Also ’cause my entire life… as much as I don’t have a big body count or whatever , I wasn’t hooking up a lot. I’m a very sexual person. Like I love sex. I really really enjoy the act of sex. And it just feels so crazy to me that you know, in my later 20s, that has just… I haven’t had the drive as much. So I feel bad, where like I am with this teenager boy in a phase where — you are in a phase where you are sexually like a guy going through puberty and you wanna fuck all the time and I am not “there,” so it’s not annoying it’s more of a frustration with myself, where like I’m so attracted to you, you’re so hot, this sucks, that I’m just like, chemically not the same.

Kylo: That must be tough. You’re going through a particular peak — you’re at these two extremes.

Em: But my hot take is that I’ve been in sex drive disparity relationships before in my life and I think it should just be more normalized that couples don’t need to match each other. Like, it’s okay to be different. That’s why we have the joys of masturbation, of alone time. Like anything — open relationship, so long as there’s individual satisfaction happening and you’re matching each other to maintain enough intimacy to keep the relationship bonded, it’s cool.

Motti: Yeah, my horniness is simply not her problem nor her responsibility. But I’ll toss it up. Last night I’m like you don’t happen to want head right now? And she’ll be like “no,” and I’ll be like “literally no problem,” and she feels like she has top apologize and I’m like no, I’m just throwing it out there! The same as if I’d be like, do you want a glass of water? IT’s here but I’m not gonna be upset. But it’s so funny because I lean more stone top and when she politely is like n

Britt: I’m like, “I feel so bad because that sounds lovely, it sounds awesome.”

Motti: But it’s funny ’cause it’s not like I’m like “can you fuck me?” I’m like “can I go down on you?” and she’s like “what does that do for you?” and I’m like —

Kylo: Everything?

Motti: Right, I’m like… everything?

Britt: What is it that you say to me every time? He goes, “you simply don’t have the heart of a top. You don’t understand.”

Motti: Right I’m like you don’t understand like how impactful giving is. But it’s funny that it’s not horniness like “I need a hand job right now,” it’s like “can I eat you out, please and thank you?”

Kylo: Before I was on testosterone, I would say, and this is weirdly embarrassing for me, and I shouldn’t be because of stereotypes. And it’s silly, but Em’s sex drive was more than mine. And so I feel excited about this because I feel like mine’s more. Would you say? Marginally more. And so it’s a new experience for us. I love the dynamic of it, where I’m asking her for sex and she’s saying, no.

Em: And to be quite honest with you, I’m happy about it because it’s also the first time I’ve had someone with high sexuality and I’m consistent. It’s very interesting being in and again, all of these things are just downstream when I think of like heteronormative conditioning, especially as a bisexual woman who’s had long term relationships with men of having almost it being an invert of what is affirming of men where, I’m the one that’s the pester-er and that’s absolutely fine by me — I’m not bothered, but it’s certainly, like you said, you find it embarrassing to even like think about that, which is a shame. But I’m happy that it’s the other way around now. Yeah, yeah, it’s quite fun. It’s been fun to be pestered. I love it. And I have no trouble in saying no. I feel like that’s also something. Yeah. Cause it can be tough to do that, it can feel like a mini rejection.

Britt: Yes. I never want to make someone feel rejected. Especially after all of mine.

Motti: That’s never how I receive it.

Kylo: I don’t know about you, but like, maybe I’m too sensitive. But if you were like, “ehhh… I could?” I don’t want this to feel like a push for you.

Motti: Right, like doing me a favor. I take care of myself. But something funny started happening. I hate to say this is gonna sound so awful — I’ve always masturbated at a higher volume than probably the average person. But it’s so funny that since we live together, we have a big window, like a big wall of window in our bedroom, then we have curtains.

Britt: I’ll plug the address if anybody wants to watch.

Motti: And so if I’m jacking off, I’ll close the curtains before we normally would — which would be like right before bed — so if I’m home earlier than her, she’s at a show, she comes home in, the curtains are closed-

Britt: I’m like, OH

Motti: So when this first started happening, she would be like, I see the curtains are closed. Did you jack off? And I had to nicely ask her and be like, “hey, if you notice the curtains are closed, we don’t need to say anything.”

Kylo: Why? Does it embarrass you?

Motti: I think so, and I also get self-conscious that she might get upset because what if she comes home and she expects sex and then she thinks that I won’t, and I’m like, no, I could go again. Are you still the way where you’re like, I come and I’m done.

Kylo: I would say that I’m working on that. Yeah. I’m improving.

Motti: I also don’t want her to, like, I don’t know, it would never hurt your feelings.

Britt: Absolutely not. I think that also might be an internalized thing where we’ve we were all taught that masturbation is, like, gross and weird and something you don’t tell anyone. And so, yeah. But that was a funny thing for a second where I’m like, yeah, no, we don’t have to- Not that I’m ashamed of it. I’m just like, you don’t have to talk about it.

Em: How does it feel for you as transition unfolds in your household? With your roles, your feelings about how you feel about yourself and what it means for your dynamic as a queer or maybe not queer identifying couple.

Britt: You know, it’s interesting. I feel very secure in calling us a queer couple, even though we just as time goes on, you’re passing more and more and it’s going to be like, yea we look like a hetero couple. But for me, as someone who is in most all, like relationships with cis men, no, this, I feel like I still get to claim that. I don’t think that just because you’re transitioning, then that gets taken away from us or from me.

Motti: And I also just don’t feel that on a personal level. I’m so gay. What was the tweet I sent you? It was like “the faggiest t-boys make the best housewives.” Yeah. This was so me.

Britt: I know people will joke about that. Oh, you know, you had this big, you know, second coming out and, you know, you’re exploring more of your bisexuality and then of course, your partner transitions.

Motti: You’re still eating pussy at the end of the day.

Britt: It doesn’t bug me. It doesn’t make me feel either way. I still feel pretty gay. I’m cool with it.

Motti: Yeah, we listen to Phoebe Bridgers in the house.

Britt: Yeah, it’s a very gay household. The cats are gay, I don’t know.

Em: It’s interesting because I feel like we have quite heteronormative — or had, before, quite heteronormative roles in the house because I’m so fucking domestic, which is kind of annoying and feels off brand. I wish I wasn’t, but I do love domestic bliss. I love to cook, love to care, all the things. And obviously, Motti, it’s so interesting because you describe yourself as the housewife — love! — but I guess I’ve observed Kylo maybe moving more towards femininity and traditionally heteronormatively feminine things.

Kylo: This is the first time we’ve spoken about this.

Em: No it’s not, we’ve spoken about this!

Kylo: This specific thing?

Em: Yeah!

Motti: You know, when you feel secure in your masculinity, that’s when you start to—

Kylo: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

Em: We’ve — I feel gaslit. We’ve spoken about this so much.

Kylo: Right right, I was ilke I gotta get back into my masculine role so I was like, gaslight her!! No I’m kidding. Put in that very succinct way —  I thought you meant around like roles in the house and I was, I was thinking about it.. like… is it because I cooked that one time?

Motti: It’s the bolognese.

Em: No. But femininity at large, how that shows up in your identity and your lived life. I feel like with some parts of your transition — top surgery, testosterone even, it’s almost like unlocked some things that maybe felt or maybe the areas of lived experience that would feel dysphoric before are shrinking which gives you more breadth and play.

Motti: It frees you. That makes sense. I always say once you cut ties with one binary, like, you know, oppressive thing, you can kind of start to cut ties with maybe not all of them, but with most of them and I definitely feel that.

Kylo: How does that feel for you, though?

Em: Same as you. I feel gay. I feel like I guess maybe the outside world might perceive it. Things become binary relative to one another. So maybe as Kylo becomes more masc, I feel like there’s an assumption of femininity on me, which sometimes irks me because I don’t feel that feminine. But no, I still feel like a dyke — without misgendering you.

Kylo: You don’t.

Motti: Do you know, I beg Brit to say, dyke? She’s like, “I’m not allowed to say it!” And I’m like, “yes, again, you eat pussy like a dyke. You can say the word dyke.”

Britt: This is the entry.

Motti: I don’t mean to be gender essentialist about it. It’s only specific to her I’m like — you can say, dyke.

Britt: For so long, I wasn’t. I felt like I wasn’t allowed to take up space and I mean, not just that, but yeah, like my ex-husband did not like me talking about my queerness and was very put off by it and so for a very long time, I was not a visibly queer person. And so I just couldn’t go around slinging the D word, you know? So I just … it felt foreign to me —.

Motti: But, I mean, can you say it right now on the Good Boys podcast?

Britt (singing): Dyke. I mean, I sing.

Kylo: Yayy!

Motti: For as long as I can use it, I’m going to use it.

Kylo: Yeah I’d like to use it. Yeah I mean I do use it.

Motti: Yeah I love it.

Britt: Until they yell at you. Yeah. Until they take you away.

Kylo: They could be yelling at us right now.

Motti: I’m sure they are.

Kylo: You guys are great. We should bring you on.

Em: No, thank you.

Britt: I love to chat anytime.

Motti: So, you know, season one of the Good Boys podcast on the For Them Network. Really, really fun times. We’re going to take the winter to be with family and think of ways that we can truly make this an even better podcast. Folks know that they can write to us at Good [email protected]. Any suggestions, things you want to hear about advice, questions, suggestions for segments, whatever you kind of want to hear. And we’re going to continue to build this. And thank you to the what feels insane, thousands and thousands of people who listen to this podcast.

Kylo: I have too we have can I drop — we have some Good Boys merch dropping. Not too much. Which is exciting. And when we come back, Motti will be even hairier.

Motti: I cannot wait, It’ll be human hair.

Britt: You’ll be full Sasquatch.

Motti: And also, what you should do is follow us, goodboyspod on Instagram. This is new. Very fun.

Kylo: Any last words from either of you?

Britt: No. I mean, I’m looking forward to being a permanent guest.

Em: Oh, I won’t be.

Kylo: Fair enough.

Britt: Thank you for having us. This was really fun. Thank you for being on board.

Em: Thanks for having me. Yeah.

Motti: All right. I’m gonna say good boy Britt.

Britt: Good boy Motti.

Kylo: Did you just get excited? No.

Motti: No, it’s been more bad that’s excites me these days.

Kylo: Oh. Get it ready. Sorry.

Em: Good boy. Kylo, because that’s right on mine.